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Tuesday, 15 April 2014

The question that @Wotsit4 just can't answer, so I will...

I've been asking an individual, who Tweets under the handle @Wotsit4, a very simple two part question. I've asked him it over 20, maybe even 30 or 40 times and he just can't answer the question. To save me typing it over and over again on Twitter, although my smartphone's predictive type feature really does ease the pain here, here is that question is a nice large type size:

Why do you think that Israel is occupying the West Bank and Gaza post 1967 but that Jordan and Egypt weren't 1948-1967?

I wonder if @Wotsit4 will finally manage to answer that question in the comments here?

You see the trouble is that he knows he can't answer that question honestly because that would either reveal his real motives in opposing Israel or leave him open to me pointing out that people who know far more than he about the 'Palestinians' explained it thus:

Way back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper Trouw published an interview with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. Here’s what he said:
'The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. 

In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct “Palestinian people” to oppose Zionism.

For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan.'

Zahir Muhsein was only a PLO executive committee member, so here's the PLO leader Yasser Arafat speaking on Jordanian TV on the same day that he signed the Declaration of Principles on the White House lawn in 1993:
“Since we cannot defeat Israel in war, we do this in stages. We take any and every territory that we can of Palestine, and establish a sovereignty there, and we use it as a springboard to take more. When the time comes, we can get the Arab nations to join us for the final blow against Israel.”

Those were comments from 'Palestinians' how about we remember what a Jordanian king said?
Here's King Hussein:

In 1965 - “Those organisations which seek to differentiate between Palestinians and Jordanians are traitors.” 
In 1981 - “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.”

How about looking the first Palestine National Charter of 1964, this explicitly denies any claim to the West Bank and Gaza  which were then “occupied” by Jordan and Egypt:

Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah Area
So the PLO weren't interested in 'liberating' the West Bank and Gaza to form part of a 'Palestinian' state until they were 'occupied' by Jews. Jordan was fine.


Remember that for many years, the PLO itself promoted a "stages plan" that would first create a Palestinian state on the 1949 - 1967 armistice lines, and then work from that position to destroy Israel. Indeed senior Fatah official Abbas Zaki recently stated that this remains the goal for Fatah as well, but that "you can't say it to the world. You can say it to yourself."...

The facts are out there and easy to find but the likes of @Wotsit4 and @DD1958 ignore them because to do otherwise would prove their standpoints to be based on lies.

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