As I have said before the 'Palestinians' claim on Israel is nothing to
do with the 'Palestinian' people. But don't listen to me, listen to
Palestine Liberation Organisation executive committee member Zahir
Muhsein. Here's what he said in 1977:
Now take a look at the first Palestine National Charter of 1964, this explicitly denies any claim to the West Bank and Gaza which were then “occupied” by Jordan and Egypt:
Until the late 1980s, Jordan’s Hashemite rulers did not deny that their country was Palestine. They said so on numerous occasions. In 1965, King Hussein said: “Those organisations which seek to differentiate between Palestinians and Jordanians are traitors.” As late as 1981, Hussein repeated “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.”
Remember that for many years, the PLO itself promoted a "stages plan" that would first create a Palestinian state on the 1949 - 1967 armistice lines, and then work from that position to destroy Israel. Indeed senior Fatah official Abbas Zaki recently stated that this remains the goal for Fatah as well, but that "you can't say it to the world. You can say it to yourself."...
As for Egypt, here's the Hamas Interior Minister last year:
Do you understand yet @DD1958?
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.Let's read that again:
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva and Jerusalem. However, the moment we reclaim our right to all of Palestine, we will not wait even a minute to unite Palestine and Jordan."
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct "Palestinian people" to oppose Zionism.Does that make it clear who the Palestinian peope are? And that's from one of the leaders of the Palestinian Liberation Organisation.
For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with defined borders, cannot raise claims to Haifa and Jaffa, while as a Palestinian, I can undoubtedly demand Haifa, Jaffa, Beer-Sheva ."
Now take a look at the first Palestine National Charter of 1964, this explicitly denies any claim to the West Bank and Gaza which were then “occupied” by Jordan and Egypt:
Article 24: This Organization does not exercise any territorial sovereignty over the West Bank in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, on the Gaza Strip or in the Himmah AreaSo the PLO weren't interested in 'liberating' the West Bank and Gaza to form part of a 'Palestinian' state until they were 'occupied' by Jews. Jordan was fine, and you'll see why in the next quotation, Egypt was fine as well and the final quotation below will explain that.
Until the late 1980s, Jordan’s Hashemite rulers did not deny that their country was Palestine. They said so on numerous occasions. In 1965, King Hussein said: “Those organisations which seek to differentiate between Palestinians and Jordanians are traitors.” As late as 1981, Hussein repeated “Jordan is Palestine and Palestine is Jordan.”
Remember that for many years, the PLO itself promoted a "stages plan" that would first create a Palestinian state on the 1949 - 1967 armistice lines, and then work from that position to destroy Israel. Indeed senior Fatah official Abbas Zaki recently stated that this remains the goal for Fatah as well, but that "you can't say it to the world. You can say it to yourself."...
As for Egypt, here's the Hamas Interior Minister last year:
"Brothers, half of the Palestinians are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis... Who are the Palestinians? .... Egyptians... We are Egyptians. We are Arabs. We are Muslims."
Do you understand yet @DD1958?
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