To anyone who still believes that it's not about Jews, it's about Israel.

I still hear people claiming that Islamists don't hate Jews because they are Jews but because of Israel. I have posted many articles that show how wrong this claim is, the most recent being this one entitled Jews -p "human pieces of filth"

Here's Hamas MP and Cleric Yunis al-Astal with his view on the Jews:

"It is well known tha the Jews are bent on spreading abomination, depravity, and all typesof corruption on the face of the Earth"

Watch the whole piece and then ponder why so many British MPs and ex-MPs openly support Hamas.

Remember also the words of Hamas Prime Minister Haniya:

"Resistance is our strategic choice and it will go on. We won’t recognize Israel and we won’t make any concession on any of our people’s legitimate rights, mainly the right of return"

Hamas won't recognise Israel's right to exist, wish to destroy Israel, create an Islamist state from the river (Jordan) to the (Mediterranean) sea and kill all Jews. So why do so many mostly Labour MPs and ex-MPs support Hamas?

The Guardian's Comment Is Free correspondent unmasked

Last week I reported on Ismail Haniyeh's piece for The Guardian's Comment Is Free section. I provided a couple of quotations so you could see what Ismail Haniyeh wants and openly says he wants. Here's some video that makes the same points.

First the "we will never, ever recognise Israel" speech from February 24th 2012 made in Egypt, in a mosque.


Second some video of Ismail Haniyeh visiting the Iranian regime, another group that are sworn to destroy Israel and Jews


Third some video of a CBS interview which shows how Ismail Haniyeh refuses to recognise Israel. How could he do otherwise bearing in mind Hamas's charter? Note how he won't accept a Palestinian state consisting of the West Bank, Gaza and Eastern Jerusalem.


Fourth is a piece of video from 2010 which shows what Ismail Haniyeh means when he says he wants to liberate Palestine. He is not talking about a return to 1967 borders he's talking about a state "from the sea to the river, from Rosh HaNikra to Rafah". And he says again "We will not recognise, we will not recognise, We will not recognise Israel". How much more proof do people need of Hamas and its leader's stand on the existence of Israel?

A step too far

As you can probably guess I am not a regular reader of The Guardian, I do however read odd, often very odd, articles on line and dip into Comment Is Free to see what the nasty left is thinking - some of the comments are truly horrible. Today however the liberal Guardian has taken a step too far. It has published a piece on Comment Is Free  written by Ismail Haniyeh.. It's his first piece for Comment Is Free, but his profile describes him thus 'Ismail Haniyeh heads the Hamas administration in the Gaza Strip'.

Just in case you are unaware of what Ismail Haniyeh stands for, take a read of this:

'The following are comments made by Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniya on his visit to Tunisia in early January 2012. The comments were all recorded and broadcast on Al-Aqsa TV:

"I say to you now, in the capital of south Tunisia: We will never ever recognize Israel."

"The land of Palestine, oh brothers and sisters, is an Islamic, as decreed by the second caliph, Omar ibn Al-Khattab. We shall not relinquish the Islamic waqf on the land of Palestine, and Jerusalem shall not be divided into Western and Eastern Jerusalem. Jerusalem is a single united [city], and Palestine stretches from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, and from Naqoura [Rosh Ha-Niqra] to Umm Al-Rashrash [Eilat] in the south."

This is Ismail Haniyeh, saying on 14 December that whilst Hamas may work for the "interim objective of liberation of Gaza, the West Bank, or Jerusalem," this in an "interim objective" and "reconciliation" with Fatah will not change Hamas' long-term "strategic" goal of eliminating all of Israel. Ismail Haniyeh also said this:

"The armed resistance and the armed struggle are the path and the strategic choice for liberating the Palestinian land, from the [Mediterranean] sea to the [Jordan] river, and for the expulsion of the invaders and usurpers [Israel]... We won't relinquish one inch of the land of Palestine."

From the sea to the river, now where have I heard that before? Oh yes, remember that every time someone chants "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" they are calling for the destruction of Israel, the ending of the Jewish state. The river is the Jordan, the sea is the Mediterranean; from the river to the sea is not calling for a two state solution, it is calling for the destruction of Israel. '

 Obvious stuff you would have thought, but not for some Comment Is Free contributors whose anti-Israel bile easily comes to the surface. Here's just a few:

'JuliaCHurley

8 June 2012 6:13PM

This is a brilliant move: letting the world understand that Palestinians - even those once believed to be "terrorists" - are truly and deeply committed to nonviolence and to a just and lasting piece. There is no longer room for Israel or the US to say that there is no partner for peace when yet another one just stepped forward. While people ask, "Where is the Palestinian Gandhi?" This is just one more example to point to and emphasize that "the Palestinian Gandhi" is not one, but millions strong'

'darkillusion

8 June 2012 8:41AM

So many more people are aware of Israel's crimes and so many people internationally are boycotting Israeli goods. Attention is drawn to the horrific situation for the Palestinian people through films, documentaries, and books. It has still along way to go before you see justice and freedom, but there are many of us doing what we can to support your rights.'

'darkillusion8 June 2012 8:53AM...an imbalance around this issue
this is certainly true, Israel works very hard at usurping the facts to fit their agenda of ethnic cleansing and land theft. After all where else in the world can Israeli settler groups set up home on Palestinian land once they have demolished Palestinian homes, and then open fire on Palestinians, many of them no more than children. Stones against bullets. The media indeed is badly imbalanced towards Israel. Thank goodness that the Guardian allows the Palestinian voices to be heard'

' GoloMannFan
8 June 2012 9:16AM
Response to Michaelg, 8 June 2012 9:04AM

In your article I do not see anything about reaching an agreement with Israel, only a desire to "end the occupation." Does that mean reaching a settlement or does that mean "taking back every inch" of the disputed land?

I hope it means, pushing Israel back to the Green Line, with not so much as a tennis court over it. Until it declares that that is its only proper western border - as the world and his wife knows to be the case - it will be an brutal and unspeakably proud imperialistic oppressor, and not so much a state as a pullulating entity.'

In case you don't know, pullulating means 'breed or spread so as to become extremely common'.
Just when you thnk The Guardian and its readers couldn't stoop any lower, they do.

So I call on you all to stop buying The Guardian. Digital Politico have started a campaign and there is a Facebook page as well, if that's your thing.

In the meantime, here's a few extracts from Hamas's Charter, in case you think that Hamas are really ready to discuss peace with Israel:

“ Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it" (The Martyr, Imam Hassan al-Banna, of blessed memory).“

“Our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious. It needs all sincere efforts. It is a step that inevitably should be followed by other steps. The Movement is but one squadron that should be supported by more and more squadrons from this vast Arab and Islamic world, until the enemy is vanquished and Allah's victory is realised.“

“The Prophet, Allah bless him and grant him salvation, has said: ‘The Day of Judgement will not come about until Moslems fight the Jews (killing the Jews), when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Moslems, O Abdulla, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (evidently a certain kind of tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews." (related by al-Bukhari and Moslem).“

“You may speak as much as you want about regional and world wars. They [Jews] were behind World War I, when they were able to destroy the Islamic Caliphate, making financial gains and controlling resources. They obtained the Balfour Declaration, formed the League of Nations through which they could rule the world.

“They were behind World War II, through which they made huge financial gains by trading in armaments, and paved the way for the establishment of their state. It was they who instigated the replacement of the League of Nations with the United Nations and the Security Council to enable them to rule the world through them. There is no war going on anywhere, without having their finger in it.“

Just listen to what they say (again)

The Western media is full of the news that Hamas and Fatah PLO are seeking to merge and that this indicates a softening of line by Hamas who are now dedicated to seeking peace with Israel based on the pre-1967 war borders. This is of course complete crap.


This is Hamas's leader in the Gaza Strip, Ismail Haniyeh, saying on 14 December that whilst Hamas may work for the "interim objective of liberation of Gaza, the West Bank, or Jerusalem," this in an "interim objective" and "reconciliation" with Fatah will not change Hamas' long-term "strategic" goal of eliminating all of Israel. Ismail Haniyeh also said this:

"The armed resistance and the armed struggle are the path and the strategic choice for liberating the Palestinian land, from the [Mediterranean] sea to the [Jordan] river, and for the expulsion of the invaders and usurpers [Israel]... We won't relinquish one inch of the land of Palestine."

From the sea to the river, now where have I heard that before? Oh yes, remember that every time someone chants "From the river to the sea, Palestine will be free" they are calling for the destruction of Israel, the ending of the Jewish state. The river is the Jordan, the sea is the Mediterranean; from the river to the sea is not calling for a two state solution, it is calling for the destruction of Israel.

Two days after Ismail Haniyeh's speech, the Palestinian Authority's Chairman Mahmoud Abbas said that Hamas leader abroad Khaled Mashaal had agreed that:

"There will be no military resistance."
"The permanent solution is on the '67 borders."

According to Mahmoud Abbas, Hamas had agreed to a permanent solution based on the 1967 borders. However, Haniyeh said that Hamas agrees to a temporary solution on the 1967 borders as a first stage only.

Who to believe?

Before you say Mahmoud Abbas, remember that for many years, the PLO itself promoted a "stages plan" that would first create a Palestinian state on the 1949 - 1967 armistice lines, and then work from that position to destroy Israel. Indeed senior Fatah official Abbas Zaki recently stated that this remains the goal for Fatah as well, but that "you can't say it to the world. You can say it to yourself."...


The west listens to and believes what Mahmoud Abbas and Hamas say about wanting a two state solution and a return to 1967 borders because that fits in with their world view of an evil Jewish state stealing land from poor Palestinians. The truth is some way from this narrative but the western media, especially the BBC, just don't care; facts will not be allowed to intrude into this narrative.